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Bush: Obama "doesn't Want Immigration Reform"

Discussion in 'Immigration legislation' started by Ron Gotcher, May 1, 2015.

  1. Ron Gotcher

    Ron Gotcher Attorney at Law

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    Might be convenient for him to believe that, and the GOP, but the immigrants, especially latinos are not going to. Obama has definitely definitely put in a lot more effort and political capital in it than the entire pro immigrant GOP put together. Remember Rubio and McCain! Lip-service and flip flopping when it comes to the countdown does not make for "wanting" immigration reform.
     
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  3. Kamakazee

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    Sometimes I wonder if the Republicans really hear what comes out of their mouths or if there is a clear disconnect between the brain and the mouth. If they think Dems do not want to solve this issue, then how about the Republicans solving this issue BY ACTUALLY PASSING A BILL in Congress where they hold majority in both chambers. What's stopping them from doing that?
     
  4. Ron Gotcher

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    Half their caucus would throw a fit if the Republican leadership tried to do that.
     
  5. Kamakazee

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    And that's why it would be impossible for a Republican candidate to win the Presidential elections. The winner from the primaries would move to the extreme right and will never win the support of minorities.
     
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    Forget immigration reform. They don't even want to pass a border security bill that would effectively seal the border.

    Some people want to keep these two issues of illegal immigration and H1B fraud alive for various reasons that cannot be stated on this forum.
     
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    Yeah, the read the article yesterday. It is amazing how Republican candidates are turning a blind eye to this. When Hillary came out with her immigration plan, the Republicans had only silence. That's all they have - no plan. Saying something in support will alienate the base, saying something against will alienate the Latino votes.

    But all these also prove that Democrats only look at votes when they look at minorities. They will take nothing less than giving the illegals voting rights. And that's why immigration reform will never pass Congress and legal immigrants are doomed.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6bc592-f423-11e4-b2f3-af5479e6bbdd_story.html
     
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    Unless redistricting and gerrymandering are settled by courts I don't expect any big change.
     
  10. Ron Gotcher

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    There is an outside chance that the Democrats could retake the House as well as the Senate next year. Having said that, let me add that I don't think it will make much difference.
     
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    If the Democrats have majority in the House and Senate and with Clinton as President, why will they not try to pass S.744?
     
  12. Ron Gotcher

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    The Republicans will filibuster it in the Senate. If it somehow manages to reach the House, I doubt Pelosi will bring it up for a vote because too many Democrats quietly oppose it.
     
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    But Pelosi was eager to bring it to vote this time. What's changed?
     
  14. Ron Gotcher

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    She knew Boehner wouldn't bring it up. Talk is cheap.
     
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    Not during the first term of a president and people are smart not to give both houses to the same party during a 2nd term.
     
  16. Ron Gotcher

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    There are a lot of Democrats who yell and scream at the Republicans on immigration, but don't want to have to go on record as voting for it. Otherwise, they would have passed this in 2009.
     
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    Yes, i think the party lines are not as clear cut as they seem, there are people on both sides who think immigrants (low and high skilled) take away american jobs. Look at the democrats opposing the president on the asia trade bill...
     
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    I dont expect either party to do anything. They keep blaming the other and do nothing. I am trying to find one episode of "South Park" where they put it eloquently (not immigration, but something else). One side kind of talk it over, sayin "You start it, we will oppose it" and the cycle continues. If anything happens, it will be because of lobby $ or poll push. Unfortunately, we are a big force at neither of those.
     

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