Discussion in 'Immigration legislation' started by Ron Gotcher, Jan 23, 2015.
This fight is over. The Republicans surrendered unconditionally this morning.
so what happened to the hastert rule ?
Well, there was only 1 Option - Pass a Clean Bill and that is what finally happened. All is well that ends well. Just a lot of long faces in the Republican camp.
House passes Homeland Security funding
See how easy that was. They could have done the same thing with S.744 last year and we wouldn't be having this argument.
See what Foxnews thinks...
Boehner Caves on Amnesty: March 3, 2015 is day that will live in infamy
Ah, FauxNews. You can always count on them to get it precisely wrong.
Hastert's rule for convenience
Hi Ron, Haven't seen you active in the forum over the past week or so. If I may ask, Are you doing okay ?
Boehner uses the Hastert rule where he seems fit. He does not apply it for must pass bills like funding bills where the Republicans pick a fight they know they are going to lose and then ultimately cave in.
Everyone knows that if Boehner had allowed a simple Yes/No vote on S.744, it would have passed. But it was not a must-pass bill like the DHS funding bill and hence it died its inevitable death with the excuse of the Hastert Rule.
Totally agree with you. It is all politicking and shameless hypocrisy.
There is plenty of that to go around - with both parties.
Agreed. The difference is the degree. It seems to be high among Republicans and low among Democrats.
I think that in some ways, the Democrats are worse. As difficult as it may be to believe, if you look at all the "good" immigration legislation over the years, it was all sponsored by Republicans.
Therefore H.R.213 is good
That "good" Immigration legislation seems to be in short supply in recent years though. Given the fate of S.744 and HR.3014, which were killed by the Republicans.
S.744 was not a good legislation and republicans did not kill HR.3012. HR3012 was Killed by Reid. He never brought it for a vote. I will also have to confess that HR.3012 is not a good legislation but the best solution that is acceptable to natives.
HR3012 was killed by Grassley who initially put a hold on it and then released it after inserting a poison pill amendment(H1B provisions).
There was nothing wrong in Grassley's amendments. He added safeguards to ensure that US is not flooded with cheap labor from India . US is not India where every lawmaker gets bribed for voting for a bill.
If the bill was defeated on the floor of the senate by republicans or if the republicans stalled the vote you could blame them. Reid has full 5 months to bring it for a vote.
S.744 would have been modified in the House. Hatch had already gotten an agreement to change many of the H1B provisions.
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